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OK, it’s worth taking slowly. First the passage in 1 Corinthians 15. KJV because it doesn’t interpolate “was” in v. 47.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

F.F. Bruce goes on... [I’m adjusting, paraphrasing]

Paul had no doubt about the personal identity of (1) the earthly Jesus and (2) the heavenly Christ

or that (2) the heavenly Christ's mode of existence was different from (1) that of the earthly Jesus.

When Paul affirms that "(1) flesh and blood cannot inherit (2) the kingdom of God" i.e., the resurrection order — he makes it plain that this is as true of the Lord as of his people.

(1) The earthly Jesus was a man of woman born who endured a real death; but (2) the risen Christ, while still man, was now vested with (2) heavenly humanity, a different order of humanity from (1) that of this present life.

"The (1) first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the (2) second man is from heaven." 1 Corinthians 15:47.

While the creation narrative of Genesis 2:7 tells how "the first man, Adam, became (1) a living soul," the character of the new creation is disclosed in the affirmation that "the last Adam became (2) a life-giving spirit" 1 Corinthians 15:45.

The (2) risen Christ, for Paul, exists no longer in (1) a body of flesh and blood but in (2) a "spiritual body".

[My note: Christ did exist in (1), says FFB, but after he “no longer” existed in (1) he existed in (2).]