Joshua 10:10-15: Difference between revisions

From Reconciling understandings of Scripture and Science
Jump to navigationJump to search
m (layout)
 
(11 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)
Line 2: Line 2:


'''[[NRSV]]'''  
'''[[NRSV]]'''  
<blockquote>And the LORD threw them into a panic before Israel, who inflicted a great slaughter on them at Gibeon, chased them by the way of the ascent of Beth-horon, and struck them down as far as Azekah and Makkedah. 11 As they fled before Israel, while they were going down the slope of Beth-horon, the LORD threw down huge stones from heaven on them as far as Azekah, and they died; there were more who died because of the hailstones than the Israelites killed with the sword.
<blockquote><sup>10</sup>And the LORD threw them into a panic before Israel, who inflicted a great slaughter on them at Gibeon, chased them by the way of the ascent of Beth-horon, and struck them down as far as Azekah and Makkedah. <sup>11</sup> As they fled before Israel, while they were going down the slope of Beth-horon, the LORD threw down huge stones from heaven on them as far as Azekah, and they died; there were more who died because of the hailstones than the Israelites killed with the sword.


On the day when the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD; and he said in the sight of Israel,</blockquote>
<sup>12</sup>On the day when the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD; and he said in the sight of Israel,<poem>
<poem>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“Sun, stand still at Gibeon,
“Sun, stand still at Gibeon,
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon.”
and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon.”
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<sup>13</sup>And '''the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,'''
And '''the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,'''
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. </poem>
until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. </poem><blockquote>
Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? '''The sun stopped in midheaven,''' and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. <sup>14</sup>There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD heeded a human voice; for the LORD fought for Israel.{{NRSVnote}}</blockquote>
Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? '''The sun stopped in midheaven,''' and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD heeded a human voice; for the LORD fought for Israel.</blockquote>


----
----


This passage illustrates the [[Geocentrism|geocentric]] language of the Bible, assuming that the sun and moon move around the earth.  This is contrary to the [[Theistic Heliocentrism|heliocentric]] model accepted by modern science: the Bible is using [[Phenomenological Language]] here.  See [[Theistic Heliocentrism]] for the [[Is Heliocentrism analogous to Evolution?|comparison]] between Heliocentrism and Evolution. <div align="right">&mdash; [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
This passage illustrates the [[Geocentrism|geocentric]] language of the Bible, assuming that the sun and moon move around the earth.  This is contrary to the [[Theistic Heliocentrism|heliocentric]] model accepted by modern science: the Bible is using [[Phenomenological Language]] here.  See [[Theistic Heliocentrism]] for the [[Is Heliocentrism analogous to Evolution?|comparison]] between Heliocentrism and Evolution.  
</div>
<div align="right">&mdash; [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]</div>
----
 
<div align="center">''A chain of references relevant to Geocentrism continues '' [[1 Samuel 2:8| here &rarr;]]</div>
Such contradictions between Scripture and modern science are real, but not always appreciated: if the science is correct, then there must be an error in the Bible; but the simplest response for a Bible believer is to assume that there must be an error in the science.  This was the approach of the "Christadelphian Answers" website:
<blockquote><i>{{:Christadelphian Answers}}</i><div align="right">&mdash; [[Christadelphian Answers#tragic|"Christadelphian Answers"]]</div></blockquote>
 
See [[Does the earth move?]]
<br>
<br>
{{AnnounceChain|A chain of Bible references relevant to Geocentrism and Heliocentrism continues|1 Samuel 2:8|#FFE4B5|#FF8C00}}
 
 
==<span id="RAbel"></span>In Ron Abel's ''"Wrested Scriptures"''==

Latest revision as of 16:58, 30 June 2024

BibleOld TestamentJoshua

NRSV

10And the LORD threw them into a panic before Israel, who inflicted a great slaughter on them at Gibeon, chased them by the way of the ascent of Beth-horon, and struck them down as far as Azekah and Makkedah. 11 As they fled before Israel, while they were going down the slope of Beth-horon, the LORD threw down huge stones from heaven on them as far as Azekah, and they died; there were more who died because of the hailstones than the Israelites killed with the sword. 12On the day when the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD; and he said in the sight of Israel,

     “Sun, stand still at Gibeon,
       and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon.”
     13And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,
       until the nation took vengeance on their enemies.

Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. 14There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD heeded a human voice; for the LORD fought for Israel.

New Revised Standard Version Bible, copyright © 1989 the Division of Christian Education of the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

This passage illustrates the geocentric language of the Bible, assuming that the sun and moon move around the earth. This is contrary to the heliocentric model accepted by modern science: the Bible is using Phenomenological Language here. See Theistic Heliocentrism for the comparison between Heliocentrism and Evolution.

Bruce

Such contradictions between Scripture and modern science are real, but not always appreciated: if the science is correct, then there must be an error in the Bible; but the simplest response for a Bible believer is to assume that there must be an error in the science. This was the approach of the "Christadelphian Answers" website:

Tragically we now find that even amongst the ranks of supposedly Bible based communities, including Christadelphians, we have determined attempts being made to make science and the Bible harmonise. This inevitably means re-interpreting the Bible to accommodate scientific conclusions.

See Does the earth move?

A chain of Bible references relevant to Geocentrism and Heliocentrism continues here →


In Ron Abel's "Wrested Scriptures"